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Aslan Karatsev

RUS Age 33 185 cm / 6'1" Plays: Right-Handed ATP Tour years active: 2013–2024

Aslan Karatsev represented Russia on the ATP Tour and reached a career high of No. 14. TennisDB's records show a singles record of 79–87 and 3 singles titles.

Peak singles rank

14 (Feb 7, 2022)

Elo peak

1986 (90th percentile)

Singles record

79–87 (47.6%)

Singles titles

Prize money

$5,404,762

Records cover recorded main-draw singles results in TennisDB's ATP event archive, including credited walkovers; qualifying is shown separately below.

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ATP Matches full match log →

Aslan Karatsev's recent, live, and scheduled ATP matches
Opponent	Score	Result	H2H	Match Data	Date	Round	Tournament	Category	Surface
Harold Mayot #136	4-6 0-3 (ret.)	L	H2H	Match data	Mar 31, 2025*	Q1 Q	Grand Prix Hassan II	ATP 250	Clay
Marton Fucsovics #91	4-6 1-6	L	H2H	Match data	Nov 4, 2024	Q1 Q	Belgrade	ATP 250	Hard
Aleksandr Shevchenko #61	1-6 7-6(5) 5-7	L	H2H	Match data	Oct 18, 2024*	R16	Almaty Open	ATP 250	Hard
Zhizhen Zhang #46	6-4 7-6(2)	W	H2H	Match data	Oct 17, 2024*	R32	Almaty Open	ATP 250	Hard
Alejandro Moro Canas	6-4 6-3	W	—	Match data	Oct 14, 2024	Q2 Q	Almaty Open	ATP 250	Hard

Qualifying matches are shown here but excluded from main-draw summaries and leaderboards.

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Aslan Karatsev's most-played ATP rivals
Opponent	W	L	M	Last Played	H2H
Karen Khachanov	1	4	5	Jul 3, 2024	H2H
Lorenzo Sonego	3	2	5	Jun 22, 2023	H2H
Zhizhen Zhang	3	1	4	Oct 17, 2024	H2H
Frances Tiafoe	1	3	4	Jul 26, 2024	H2H
Mackenzie McDonald	2	2	4	May 10, 2024	H2H

Singles Titles (3)

Aslan Karatsev singles titles by season and category
Season	Age	Singles titles	GS	Masters 1000 including documented historical predecessor categories	ATP 500 including documented historical predecessor categories	ATP 250 including documented historical predecessor categories	ATP Finals	Tournaments
2021	27	2	—	—	1	1	—	Moscow, Dubai Tennis Championships
2022	28	1	—	—	—	1	—	Sydney International
Total		3	—	—	1	2	—

Asterisked totals include editions mapped from documented historical predecessor categories. Mapping details.

Olympic Singles Results (1)

Aslan Karatsev Olympic singles results
Edition	Event	Result	W	L	Last Match	H2H	Match Data
2020	Tokyo Olympics	Second Round	1	1	Jeremy Chardy #68 def. Aslan Karatsev #24 7-5 4-6 6-3	H2H	Match data

Career Results

Aslan Karatsev career results by season
Season	Age	Type	W	L	M	Win %	Start Rank	End Rank
2012	18	Qualifying Q	0	2	2	0.0%	—	—
2013	19	Qualifying Q	3	0	3	100.0%	—	—
2013	19	ATP	0	2	2	0.0%	722	292
2014	20	Qualifying Q	5	2	7	71.4%	—	—
2014	20	ATP	0	1	1	0.0%	290	218
2015	21	Qualifying Q	6	7	13	46.2%	—	—
2015	21	ATP	1	1	2	50.0%	216	195
2016	22	Qualifying Q	7	3	10	70.0%	—	—
2016	22	ATP	0	2	2	0.0%	195	235
2017	23	Qualifying Q	0	1	1	0.0%	—	—
2019	25	Qualifying Q	0	2	2	0.0%	—	—
2020	26	Qualifying Q	6	2	8	75.0%	—	—
2020	26	ATP	2	3	5	40.0%	292	112
2021	27	Qualifying Q	3	0	3	100.0%	—	—
2021	27	ATP	34	20	54	63.0%	112	18
2022	28	Qualifying Q	1	2	3	33.3%	—	—
2022	28	ATP	17	29	46	37.0%	18	59
2023	29	Qualifying Q	10	2	12	83.3%	—	—
2023	29	ATP	22	19	41	53.7%	59	35
2024	30	Qualifying Q	5	5	10	50.0%	—	—
2024	30	ATP	3	10	13	23.1%	35	287
2025	31	Qualifying Q	0	1	1	0.0%	—	—
Career		—	79	87	166	47.6%	—	—

Career Results by Surface

Aslan Karatsev career results by season and surface
Season	Age	Type	Hard				Clay				Grass				Total
Season	Age	Type	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %
2012	18	Qualifying Q	0	2	2	0.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%
2013	19	Qualifying Q	3	0	3	100.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	3	0	3	100.0%
2013	19	ATP	0	2	2	0.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%
2014	20	Qualifying Q	3	0	3	100.0%	2	1	3	66.7%	0	1	1	0.0%	5	2	7	71.4%
2014	20	ATP	0	1	1	0.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%
2015	21	Qualifying Q	5	4	9	55.6%	0	1	1	0.0%	1	2	3	33.3%	6	7	13	46.2%
2015	21	ATP	1	1	2	50.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1	1	2	50.0%
2016	22	Qualifying Q	5	2	7	71.4%	2	1	3	66.7%	—	—	—	—	7	3	10	70.0%
2016	22	ATP	0	2	2	0.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%
2017	23	Qualifying Q	0	1	1	0.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%
2019	25	Qualifying Q	0	2	2	0.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%
2020	26	Qualifying Q	4	1	5	80.0%	2	1	3	66.7%	—	—	—	—	6	2	8	75.0%
2020	26	ATP	2	3	5	40.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2	3	5	40.0%
2021	27	Qualifying Q	3	0	3	100.0%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	3	0	3	100.0%
2021	27	ATP	24	12	36	66.7%	9	6	15	60.0%	1	2	3	33.3%	34	20	54	63.0%
2022	28	Qualifying Q	1	1	2	50.0%	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	1	2	3	33.3%
2022	28	ATP	11	18	29	37.9%	5	9	14	35.7%	1	2	3	33.3%	17	29	46	37.0%
2023	29	Qualifying Q	2	1	3	66.7%	7	0	7	100.0%	1	1	2	50.0%	10	2	12	83.3%
2023	29	ATP	13	12	25	52.0%	7	4	11	63.6%	2	3	5	40.0%	22	19	41	53.7%
2024	30	Qualifying Q	5	4	9	55.6%	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	5	5	10	50.0%
2024	30	ATP	2	5	7	28.6%	1	4	5	20.0%	0	1	1	0.0%	3	10	13	23.1%
2025	31	Qualifying Q	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%
Career	—	—	53	56	109	48.6%	22	23	45	48.9%	4	8	12	33.3%	79	87	166	47.6%

Career Results by Opponent Rank

Aslan Karatsev career results by season and opponent rank
Season	Age	1-10				11-30				31-100				100+				Total
Season	Age	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %
2013	19	0	0	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	0	1	1	0.0%	0	0	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%
2014	20	0	0	—	—	0	0	—	—	0	0	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	0	1	1	0.0%
2015	21	0	0	—	—	0	0	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	1	0	1	100.0%	1	1	2	50.0%
2016	22	0	0	—	—	0	0	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	0	1	1	0.0%	0	2	2	0.0%
2020	26	0	0	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%	1	0	1	100.0%	1	1	2	50.0%	2	3	5	40.0%
2021	27	5	4	9	55.6%	5	4	9	55.6%	17	11	28	60.7%	6	1	7	85.7%	33	20	53	62.3%
2022	28	0	3	3	0.0%	3	4	7	42.9%	11	17	28	39.3%	3	5	8	37.5%	17	29	46	37.0%
2023	29	1	3	4	25.0%	6	5	11	54.5%	11	10	21	52.4%	4	1	5	80.0%	22	19	41	53.7%
2024	30	0	0	—	—	0	3	3	0.0%	2	4	6	33.3%	1	3	4	25.0%	3	10	13	23.1%
Career		6	10	16	37.5%	14	19	33	42.4%	42	45	87	48.3%	16	13	29	55.2%	78	87	165	47.3%

Opponent ranking data available for 165/166 (99.4%) of Aslan Karatsev's ATP main draw matches.

Performance Stats

Aslan Karatsev performance statistics by season
Season	Age	Sample	Aces/M	DFs/M	1st Sv%	1st Sv Pts%	2nd Sv Pts%	BP Saved%	BP Conv%	Svc Pts%	Ret Pts%
2013	19	2/2	2.0	3.0	57.6%	62.3%	47.7%	56.0%	9.1%	55.4%	33.5%
2014	20	1/1	2.0	3.0	67.8%	60.0%	52.6%	62.5%	20.0%	57.6%	37.1%
2015	21	2/2	2.0	3.0	65.3%	61.9%	55.0%	50.0%	35.8%	59.5%	45.1%
2016	22	2/2	1.5	3.0	60.5%	63.0%	39.1%	61.3%	61.5%	53.7%	29.1%
2020	26	5/5	5.8	4.8	54.3%	73.3%	47.9%	61.4%	58.3%	62.2%	37.3%
2021	27	52/54	4.7	3.7	59.4%	73.4%	53.3%	58.8%	39.4%	65.2%	38.7%
2022	28	46/46	4.7	5.0	59.1%	70.1%	49.2%	55.5%	40.5%	61.5%	36.8%
2023	29	41/41	6.3	5.2	59.3%	75.2%	50.7%	63.4%	41.1%	65.2%	34.5%
2024	30	13/13	4.1	3.4	63.0%	68.2%	49.7%	56.4%	43.7%	61.4%	34.1%
Career		164/166	5.0	4.4	59.5%	72.0%	50.8%	58.8%	40.8%	63.4%	36.6%

Detailed serve and return statistics available for 164/166 (98.8%) of Aslan Karatsev's ATP main draw matches.

Advanced Stats

Aslan Karatsev advanced statistics by season
Season	Age	Elo	P+	Serve+	Return+	PD	TPW%	Hard Elo	Clay Elo	Grass Elo	Set Win %	Set Margin	Dec. Set	Tiebreak	Pressure+	Schedule
2012	18	1471	102.4	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
2013	19	1510	109.6	-0.26	-2.56	0.752	44.4%	—	—	—	20.0%	-2.40	0–1	1–0	—	-0.14
2014	20	1551	107.8	-0.62	-1.10	0.877	46.5%	—	—	—	0.0%	-2.50	—	—	—	+0.02
2015	21	1574	111.4	-0.63	+0.65	1.113	52.0%	—	—	—	60.0%	+1.00	0–1	0–1	—	-0.08
2016	22	1599	109.4	-3.15	-2.40	0.629	43.0%	—	—	—	33.3%	-1.67	0–1	—	—	+0.09
2017	23	1584	101.2	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
2019	25	1569	106.0	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
2020	26	1637	125.4	-0.63	+0.29	0.986	50.2%	+29	—	—	46.2%	0.00	1–2 (33%)	1–1	—	+0.06
2021	27	1867	157.8	+2.15	+2.50	1.113	51.7%	+23	-153	-317	59.0%	+0.58	11–7 (61%)	6–9 (40%)	104.9	-0.81
2022	28	1632	137.3	-1.44	+0.46	0.956	49.3%	+37	+33	-91	42.6%	-0.40	7–15 (32%)	9–13 (41%)	90.6	+2.11
2023	29	1818	140.4	+1.00	-0.97	0.989	50.1%	-55	+21	-260	53.8%	+0.18	5–5 (50%)	14–11 (56%)	103.6	+0.74
2024	30	1680	118.5	-1.65	-1.34	0.884	48.0%	+7	+48	—	35.7%	-0.89	1–3 (25%)	2–2 (50%)	96.5	-0.67
2025	31	1659	96.7	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
Career		1986	141.9	+0.32	+0.52	0.999	50.1%	+7	-30	-229	50.2%	+0.03	25–35 (42%)	33–37 (47%)	97.1	+0.80

Tournament Results by Category

Grand Slams

Aslan Karatsev Grand Slams results by season
Season	Age	AO	RG	W	USO	W-L Win %
2014	20	—	—	Q1	—	0–1 (0%)
2015	21	Q1	Q1	Q2	Q3	3–4 (43%)
2016	22	Q2	Q3	—	Q1	3–3 (50%)
2020	26	—	Q3	—	—	2–1 (67%)
2021	27	SF	R64	R128	R32	8–4 (67%)
2022	28	R32	R128	—	R128	2–3 (40%)
2023	29	R128	R64	R64	R32	7–4 (64%)
2024	30	—	R128	R128	Q3	2–3 (40%)
W-L		8–5 (62%)	9–7 (56%)	2–5 (29%)	8–6 (57%)	27–23 (54%)

Masters 1000

Aslan Karatsev Masters 1000 results by season
Season	Age	CAN	CIN	IW	MAD	MC	MIA	PAR	ITA	SHA	W-L Win %
2019	25	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	0–1 (0%)
2021	27	R32	R64	R16	R16	R32	R32	R64	R16	—	8–8 (50%)
2022	28	R64	R32	R64	R64	R64	R32	R64	R32	—	3–8 (27%)
2023	29	R64	Q1	—	SF	—	—	—	—	R128	7–4 (64%)
2024	30	Q1	—	—	R128	—	—	—	R64	Q2	2–4 (33%)
W-L		0–4 (0%)	1–3 (25%)	2–2 (50%)	9–4 (69%)	1–2 (33%)	2–2 (50%)	0–2 (0%)	4–3 (57%)	1–3 (25%)	20–25 (44%)

ATP 500

Aslan Karatsev ATP 500 results by season
Season	Age	ALM	BAS	DUB	HAL	HAM	QUE	ROT	SPB	TKY	VIE	WAS	W-L Win %
2020	26	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R16	—	—	—	1–1 (50%)
2021	27	—	—	W	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	7–1 (88%)
2022	28	R32	R32	R32	R32	QF	—	R32	—	—	—	R32	3–8 (27%)
2023	29	—	—	—	R32	—	—	R32	—	F	R32	R32	8–6 (57%)
2024	30	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	—	—	R64	0–2 (0%)
W-L		0–1 (0%)	1–2 (33%)	6–1 (86%)	1–4 (20%)	2–1 (67%)	1–1 (50%)	2–2 (50%)	1–1 (50%)	4–1 (80%)	0–1 (0%)	1–3 (25%)	19–18 (51%)

ATP 250

Aslan Karatsev ATP 250 results by season
Season	Age	ALM	ATL	SWE	BRI	DOH	FLR	GEN	MUN	HGZ	AUS	13	MAL	MET	MRK	MRS	PUN	SDG	SOF	SPB	STO	ZHU	BEL	STU	MOS	MTP	SYD	TEL	ZAG	W-L Win %
2012	18	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	0–2 (0%)
2013	19	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	3–2 (60%)
2014	20	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q3	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	5–2 (71%)
2015	21	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	R16	—	—	—	Q1	4–4 (50%)
2016	22	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	4–2 (67%)
2017	23	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	0–1 (0%)
2019	25	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0–1 (0%)
2020	26	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	5–3 (62%)
2021	27	R16	—	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	QF	—	R16	—	—	F	—	W	—	—	—	—	10–6 (62%)
2022	28	—	—	QF	—	—	R16	—	—	—	R16	R32	R16	R32	—	QF	R16	—	—	—	R16	—	R16	Q1	—	—	W	R32	—	10–12 (45%)
2023	29	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	SF	—	—	—	—	SF	—	R16	—	R32	—	—	—	10–7 (59%)
2024	30	R16	R16	—	R32	—	—	R32	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	—	—	4–6 (40%)
2025	31	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	Q1	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	0–1 (0%)
W-L		5–3 (62%)	1–1 (50%)	2–1 (67%)	0–1 (0%)	3–4 (43%)	1–1 (50%)	0–1 (0%)	3–1 (75%)	0–1 (0%)	2–2 (50%)	0–2 (0%)	1–1 (50%)	0–1 (0%)	0–2 (0%)	1–1 (50%)	3–3 (50%)	2–1 (67%)	3–1 (75%)	0–4 (0%)	1–1 (50%)	3–1 (75%)	3–3 (50%)	1–3 (25%)	16–5 (76%)	0–2 (0%)	4–0 (100%)	0–1 (0%)	0–1 (0%)	55–49 (53%)

Results show the best round reached per tournament and season.

ATP Ranking History full ranking history →

Career high

Career-high date

Feb 7, 2022

First Top 100

Feb 22, 2021

First Top 50

Feb 22, 2021

First Top 20

Oct 25, 2021

First Top 10

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Ranking History Matrix

Aslan Karatsev ranking history by month and season
Season	Age	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
2011	17	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	1730
2012	18	1714	1101	1106	975	959	910	766	738	712	705	703	721
2013	19	720	750	704	625	591	391	346	328	331	286	285	292
2014	20	292	300	296	309	223	275	289	290	233	236	222	218
2015	21	218	217	167	166	173	180	176	182	195	184	195	195
2016	22	192	199	223	231	277	250	208	204	216	228	238	235
2017	23	255	234	293	294	320	351	543	583	667	761	750	621
2018	24	517	519	516	538	533	523	403	396	384	381	386	485
2019	25	437	437	437	350	342	343	321	264	271	271	270	289
2020	26	251	262	253	—	—	—	—	140	116	113	111	112
2021	27	113	42	27	27	26	24	24	25	24	19	18	18
2022	28	15	22	32	33	41	42	37	38	39	58	59	59
2023	29	98	102	107	121	62	47	75	77	52	35	35	35
2024	30	39	40	41	48	82	99	102	99	137	313	291	287
2025	31	229	209	190	187	211	216	247	254	273	341	378	369

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Cristian Garin (active player)	CHI	#17	1,942	234	121	113	51.7%	$7,023,730	5	0	2013–2026	Rivalries	Match log
Albert Ramos-Vinolas (active player)	ESP	#17	1,967	604	276	328	45.7%	$11,263,810	4	0	2010–2025	Rivalries	Match log
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina (active player)	ESP	#14	1,974	333	179	154	53.8%	$12,254,909	1	0	2019–2026	Rivalries	Match log
Benoit Paire (active player)	FRA	#18	1,951	534	240	294	44.9%	$10,544,721	3	0	2010–2024	Rivalries	Match log
Adrian Mannarino (active player)	FRA	#17	1,962	697	320	377	45.9%	$15,238,259	5	0	2008–2026	Rivalries	Match log
Reilly Opelka (active player)	USA	#17	1,972	243	124	119	51.0%	$6,150,025	4	0	2016–2026	Rivalries	Match log

Frequently Asked Questions

How old is Aslan Karatsev?: Aslan Karatsev is 33 years old, born on September 4, 1993.
Which country does Aslan Karatsev represent?: Aslan Karatsev represents Russia in TennisDB's ATP records.
How tall is Aslan Karatsev?: Aslan Karatsev is 185 cm / 6'1".
Is Aslan Karatsev left-handed or right-handed?: Aslan Karatsev plays right-handed.
How many Grand Slam singles titles has Aslan Karatsev won?: Aslan Karatsev has not won a Grand Slam singles title.
How many Masters 1000 titles has Aslan Karatsev won?: TennisDB does not group any of Aslan Karatsev's titles under the modern Masters 1000 category.
How many ATP titles has Aslan Karatsev won?: Aslan Karatsev has won 3 ATP singles titles across all categories. The most recent was Sydney International in 2022.
What is Aslan Karatsev's highest ATP ranking?: Aslan Karatsev's career-high ATP singles ranking is world No. 14, first achieved on February 7, 2022.
What is Aslan Karatsev's career win-loss record?: Aslan Karatsev has a career ATP singles record of 79 wins and 87 losses (47.6%).
How much career prize money has Aslan Karatsev earned?: Aslan Karatsev has earned at least $5,404,762 in career prize money from professional tennis.
What turned-professional year does TennisDB record for Aslan Karatsev?: TennisDB records 2011 as Aslan Karatsev's turned-professional year.
Which seasons of Aslan Karatsev's career appear in TennisDB?: Aslan Karatsev appears in TennisDB's ATP main-tour match records from 2013 through 2024.
On which surface does Aslan Karatsev have the highest recorded win rate?: Among surfaces with at least 20 recorded matches, Aslan Karatsev's highest ATP main-draw win rate is on clay: 48.9% (22–23).
Who has Aslan Karatsev faced most often?: Aslan Karatsev's most frequent opponent is Karen Khachanov, with a head-to-head record of 1–4 across 5 meetings.