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Marcelo Rios

CHI Age 50 175 cm / 5'9" Plays: Left-Handed, Two-Handed Backhand ATP Tour years active: 1994–2003

Marcelo Rios represented Chile on the ATP Tour and reached a career high of No. 1. TennisDB's records show a singles record of 366–180 and 18 singles titles.

Peak singles rank

1 (Mar 30, 1998)

Elo peak

2130 (97th percentile)

Singles record

366–180 (67.0%)

Singles titles

Prize money

$9,713,771

Records cover recorded main-draw singles results in TennisDB's ATP event archive, including credited walkovers; qualifying is shown separately below.

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ATP Matches full match log →

Marcelo Rios's recent, live, and scheduled ATP matches
Opponent	Score	Result	H2H	Match Data	Date	Round	Tournament	Category	Surface
Mario Ancic #74	1-6 0-1 (ret.)	L	H2H	Match data	May 28, 2003*	R128	Roland Garros	Grand Slam	Clay
Paradorn Srichaphan #13	(w/o)	L	H2H	Match data	Mar 22, 2003*	R16	Miami Open	Masters 1000	Hard
Juan Carlos Ferrero #3	6-3 7-6(2)	W	H2H	Match data	Mar 20, 2003*	R32	Miami Open	Masters 1000	Hard
Taylor Dent #41	6-1 6-1	W	H2H	Match data	Mar 19, 2003*	R64	Miami Open	Masters 1000	Hard
Max Mirnyi #36	3-6 3-6	L	H2H	Match data	Mar 13, 2003*	R32	Indian Wells Open	Masters 1000	Hard

Rivals all rivalries →

Marcelo Rios's most-played ATP rivals
Opponent	W	L	M	Last Played	H2H
Alex Corretja	5	5	10	Mar 23, 2002	H2H
Thomas Enqvist	3	7	10	Jan 3, 2002	H2H
Alberto Berasategui	6	4	10	Jun 2, 1999	H2H
Yevgeny Kafelnikov	2	6	8	Mar 21, 2002	H2H
Andrei Pavel	7	1	8	Jan 11, 2002	H2H

Singles Titles (18)

Marcelo Rios singles titles by season and category
Season	Age	Singles titles	GS	Masters 1000 including documented historical predecessor categories	ATP 500 including documented historical predecessor categories	ATP 250 including documented historical predecessor categories	ATP Finals	Tournaments
1995	19	3	—	—	—	3	—	Bologna, Dutch Open, Brisbane International
1996	20	1	—	—	—	1	—	St. Poelten
1997	21	1	—	1	—	—	—	Monte-Carlo Masters
1998	22	7	—	3	1	2	1	ASB Classic, St. Poelten, Brisbane International, Indian Wells Open, Miami Open, Italian Open, Grand Slam Cup
1999	23	3	—	1	1	1	—	St. Poelten, Brisbane International, Hamburg Open
2000	24	1	—	—	—	1	—	Croatia Open Umag
2001	25	2	—	—	—	2	—	Qatar Open, Hong Kong Open
Total		18	—	5	2	10	1

Asterisked totals include editions mapped from documented historical predecessor categories. Mapping details.

Olympic Singles Results (1)

Marcelo Rios Olympic singles results
Edition	Event	Result	W	L	Last Match	H2H	Match Data
2000	Sydney Olympics	First Round	0	1	Mariano Zabaleta #55 def. Marcelo Rios #17 6-7(8) 6-4 7-5	H2H	Match data

Career Results

Marcelo Rios career results by season
Season	Age	W	L	M	Win %	Start Rank	End Rank
1994	18	12	11	23	52.2%	562	107
1995	19	38	20	58	65.5%	107	25
1996	20	52	25	77	67.5%	25	11
1997	21	54	26	80	67.5%	11	10
1998	22	66	18	84	78.6%	10	2
1999	23	45	16	61	73.8%	2	9
2000	24	28	20	48	58.3%	9	37
2001	25	28	19	47	59.6%	37	39
2002	26	31	19	50	62.0%	47	24
2003	27	12	6	18	66.7%	24	105
Career		366	180	546	67.0%	—	—

Career Results by Surface

Marcelo Rios career results by season and surface
Season	Age	Hard				Clay				Grass				Carpet				Total
Season	Age	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %
1994	18	2	2	4	50.0%	10	9	19	52.6%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	12	11	23	52.2%
1995	19	8	8	16	50.0%	24	9	33	72.7%	1	2	3	33.3%	5	1	6	83.3%	38	20	58	65.5%
1996	20	18	10	28	64.3%	28	10	38	73.7%	—	—	—	—	6	5	11	54.5%	52	25	77	67.5%
1997	21	23	11	34	67.6%	23	9	32	71.9%	3	2	5	60.0%	5	4	9	55.6%	54	26	80	67.5%
1998	22	33	9	42	78.6%	23	5	28	82.1%	0	2	2	0.0%	10	2	12	83.3%	66	18	84	78.6%
1999	23	20	8	28	71.4%	25	7	32	78.1%	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	45	16	61	73.8%
2000	24	14	11	25	56.0%	14	8	22	63.6%	—	—	—	—	0	1	1	0.0%	28	20	48	58.3%
2001	25	23	11	34	67.6%	5	8	13	38.5%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	28	19	47	59.6%
2002	26	25	11	36	69.4%	6	6	12	50.0%	—	—	—	—	0	2	2	0.0%	31	19	50	62.0%
2003	27	6	3	9	66.7%	6	3	9	66.7%	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	12	6	18	66.7%
Career	—	172	84	256	67.2%	164	74	238	68.9%	4	6	10	40.0%	26	16	42	61.9%	366	180	546	67.0%

Career Results by Opponent Rank

Marcelo Rios career results by season and opponent rank
Season	Age	1-10				11-30				31-100				100+				Total
Season	Age	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %	W	L	M	Win %
1994	18	0	4	4	0.0%	2	1	3	66.7%	2	6	8	25.0%	7	0	7	100.0%	11	11	22	50.0%
1995	19	0	6	6	0.0%	5	2	7	71.4%	20	9	29	69.0%	12	3	15	80.0%	37	20	57	64.9%
1996	20	5	5	10	50.0%	3	5	8	37.5%	25	11	36	69.4%	17	3	20	85.0%	50	24	74	67.6%
1997	21	5	6	11	45.5%	5	4	9	55.6%	29	11	40	72.5%	11	3	14	78.6%	50	24	74	67.6%
1998	22	4	4	8	50.0%	16	4	20	80.0%	32	9	41	78.0%	13	1	14	92.9%	65	18	83	78.3%
1999	23	2	1	3	66.7%	11	6	17	64.7%	19	8	27	70.4%	11	1	12	91.7%	43	16	59	72.9%
2000	24	0	4	4	0.0%	7	8	15	46.7%	14	5	19	73.7%	5	3	8	62.5%	26	20	46	56.5%
2001	25	4	4	8	50.0%	4	4	8	50.0%	12	4	16	75.0%	7	6	13	53.8%	27	18	45	60.0%
2002	26	1	5	6	16.7%	9	4	13	69.2%	13	8	21	61.9%	8	2	10	80.0%	31	19	50	62.0%
2003	27	1	0	1	100.0%	2	1	3	66.7%	6	5	11	54.5%	3	0	3	100.0%	12	6	18	66.7%
Career		22	39	61	36.1%	64	39	103	62.1%	172	76	248	69.4%	94	22	116	81.0%	352	176	528	66.7%

Opponent ranking data available for 528/546 (96.7%) of Marcelo Rios's ATP main draw matches.

Performance Stats

Marcelo Rios performance statistics by season
Season	Age	Sample	Aces/M	DFs/M	1st Sv%	1st Sv Pts%	2nd Sv Pts%	BP Saved%	BP Conv%	Svc Pts%	Ret Pts%
1994	18	20/23	3.7	2.1	60.5%	65.5%	52.6%	49.4%	48.5%	60.1%	41.2%
1995	19	55/58	3.1	2.0	62.5%	69.4%	55.4%	59.3%	44.6%	64.1%	40.7%
1996	20	69/77	4.3	2.7	52.3%	73.2%	53.0%	54.8%	48.7%	63.5%	40.2%
1997	21	62/80	5.2	3.1	54.3%	71.9%	53.9%	58.8%	43.0%	63.7%	40.0%
1998	22	69/84	4.8	2.1	59.2%	76.8%	57.1%	63.8%	47.6%	68.7%	44.8%
1999	23	51/61	3.8	3.6	55.5%	70.9%	53.9%	56.5%	43.7%	63.2%	42.0%
2000	24	43/48	6.1	3.8	55.1%	72.7%	53.6%	62.1%	42.8%	64.1%	39.2%
2001	25	39/47	5.2	3.2	58.4%	72.0%	51.3%	60.6%	48.9%	63.3%	40.2%
2002	26	41/50	5.9	2.9	60.8%	70.2%	51.2%	59.0%	50.6%	62.7%	38.1%
2003	27	17/18	3.5	2.1	65.0%	73.6%	52.4%	56.3%	39.8%	66.5%	44.1%
Career		466/546	4.6	2.8	57.5%	72.1%	53.8%	58.7%	46.1%	64.3%	41.0%

Detailed serve and return statistics available for 466/546 (85.3%) of Marcelo Rios's ATP main draw matches.

Advanced Stats

Marcelo Rios advanced statistics by season
Season	Age	Elo	P+	Serve+	Return+	PD	TPW%	Hard Elo	Clay Elo	Grass Elo	Set Win %	Set Margin	Dec. Set	Tiebreak	Pressure+	Schedule
1994	18	1616	137.6	+0.45	+1.49	1.032	50.6%	-52	+21	—	55.0%	+0.22	3–7 (30%)	6–2 (75%)	101.0	-0.43
1995	19	1771	143.6	+2.61	+2.16	1.134	52.1%	-64	+64	-204	62.1%	+0.70	11–6 (65%)	15–7 (68%)	108.6	+0.33
1996	20	1838	152.6	+2.05	+2.33	1.101	51.6%	-34	+60	—	61.9%	+0.60	14–6 (70%)	18–8 (69%)	109.0	+2.50
1997	21	1870	152.1	+2.50	+1.54	1.103	51.7%	+18	+34	-203	62.1%	+0.79	18–8 (69%)	16–20 (44%)	100.2	+2.15
1998	22	1963	161.2	+5.86	+6.49	1.429	55.9%	+47	+47	—	74.9%	+1.61	6–7 (46%)	13–6 (68%)	97.5	+0.31
1999	23	1918	149.7	+1.16	+3.33	1.141	52.4%	+10	+119	—	68.0%	+0.95	13–3 (81%)	15–9 (63%)	104.6	+0.91
2000	24	1797	147.3	+2.03	+1.16	1.090	51.4%	+20	+166	—	61.5%	+0.77	7–9 (44%)	15–10 (60%)	97.2	-0.74
2001	25	1839	143.7	+1.20	+2.08	1.095	51.6%	+26	-19	—	57.9%	+0.52	7–6 (54%)	6–4 (60%)	100.3	-0.04
2002	26	1820	149.1	+0.99	+1.31	1.023	50.6%	+48	-37	—	63.5%	+0.74	7–5 (58%)	14–10 (58%)	101.6	+0.28
2003	27	1823	138.3	+2.95	+4.36	1.313	55.0%	+78	-41	—	69.7%	+1.21	2–1 (67%)	3–0 (100%)	103.5	+0.79
Career		2130	155.6	+2.44	+2.75	1.148	52.4%	+15	+57	-203	64.3%	+0.85	88–58 (60%)	121–76 (61%)	107.0	+1.12

Tournament Results by Category

Grand Slams

Marcelo Rios Grand Slams results by season
Season	Age	AO	RG	W	USO	W-L Win %
1994	18	—	R64	—	R64	2–2 (50%)
1995	19	—	R64	R128	R128	1–3 (25%)
1996	20	R128	R16	—	R64	4–3 (57%)
1997	21	QF	R16	R16	QF	14–4 (78%)
1998	22	F	QF	R128	R32	12–4 (75%)
1999	23	—	QF	—	R16	7–2 (78%)
2000	24	—	R128	—	R32	2–2 (50%)
2001	25	R128	R64	—	R32	3–3 (50%)
2002	26	QF	—	—	R32	6–2 (75%)
2003	27	—	R128	—	—	0–1 (0%)
W-L		14–5 (74%)	17–9 (65%)	3–3 (50%)	17–9 (65%)	51–26 (66%)

Masters 1000

Marcelo Rios Masters 1000 results by season
Season	Age	CAN	CIN	HAM	IW	MAD	MC	MIA	PAR	ITA	STU	W-L Win %
1995	19	—	R64	—	R16	—	—	R32	—	R32	—	5–4 (56%)
1996	20	SF	—	SF	SF	—	SF	R32	R32	QF	QF	20–8 (71%)
1997	21	—	R16	R16	R32	—	W	R32	R32	F	QF	16–7 (70%)
1998	22	—	R32	R32	W	—	—	W	QF	W	QF	21–4 (84%)
1999	23	—	—	W	R16	—	F	R16	R32	R64	QF	14–6 (70%)
2000	24	R16	R32	SF	R32	—	R64	R16	—	R64	—	10–7 (59%)
2001	25	—	—	R32	R64	—	R32	R64	—	R32	R16	5–6 (45%)
2002	26	R16	R32	—	R16	R32	R16	SF	R64	—	—	12–7 (63%)
2003	27	—	—	—	R32	—	—	R16	—	—	—	3–2 (60%)
W-L		7–3 (70%)	4–5 (44%)	14–5 (74%)	16–8 (67%)	1–1 (50%)	16–5 (76%)	20–8 (71%)	2–5 (29%)	16–6 (73%)	10–5 (67%)	106–51 (68%)

ATP 500

Marcelo Rios ATP 500 results by season
Season	Age	MEX	ANT	BAR	AUS	NAP	STU	TKY	VIE	WAS	MEM	NEW	PHI	BRI	W-L Win %
1994	18	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	3–2 (60%)
1995	19	—	—	R16	—	—	R32	R32	—	—	R32	R16	—	—	6–5 (55%)
1996	20	—	—	F	—	—	R32	—	R32	—	R16	R16	QF	—	8–6 (57%)
1997	21	—	R16	R32	—	R16	R16	—	—	—	—	—	—	QF	5–5 (50%)
1998	22	—	—	—	—	R16	SF	—	—	—	SF	—	—	W	12–3 (80%)
1999	23	—	—	R16	—	R16	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	W	9–3 (75%)
2000	24	—	—	QF	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2–2 (50%)
2001	25	—	—	—	—	—	—	QF	R32	QF	—	—	—	—	5–3 (62%)
2002	26	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	SF	—	—	—	—	3–2 (60%)
2003	27	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	2–1 (67%)
W-L		2–1 (67%)	1–1 (50%)	11–6 (65%)	0–1 (0%)	3–4 (43%)	7–5 (58%)	2–2 (50%)	0–2 (0%)	6–2 (75%)	5–3 (62%)	4–3 (57%)	2–1 (67%)	12–1 (92%)	55–32 (63%)

ATP 250

Marcelo Rios ATP 250 results by season
Season	Age	ADE	ASB	BAS	BUE	DLB	DOH	DUB	EST	GST	HKG	AUS	MTP	MAL	MRS	MUN	SHA	STG	STO	UMA	ATH	BOG	BOL	DUT	BRI	LON	LOS	MON	MOS	EAS	PAL	PRA	SAN	SCO	ST.	SYD	TOU	U.S	STG	W-L Win %
1994	18	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	R16	—	—	SF	—	—	—	R16	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	7–7 (50%)
1995	19	—	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	F	—	—	—	QF	W	W	W	R16	—	R32	—	R16	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	26–8 (76%)
1996	20	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	R16	QF	—	—	—	—	F	—	—	—	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	F	W	R32	SF	—	—	20–8 (71%)
1997	21	—	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	F	—	—	F	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	QF	—	R32	R16	—	—	F	—	18–9 (67%)
1998	22	—	W	—	—	—	—	R32	—	SF	—	—	SF	—	—	—	—	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	W	—	—	—	—	18–6 (75%)
1999	23	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	SF	R16	—	—	—	—	—	—	F	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	W	—	—	QF	—	15–5 (75%)
2000	24	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	QF	R16	—	—	R16	—	—	—	R32	—	W	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	QF	—	—	SF	—	—	14–8 (64%)
2001	25	—	R32	—	R32	—	W	—	—	—	W	—	—	—	—	R16	—	—	QF	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	QF	R32	—	—	—	R32	15–7 (68%)
2002	26	R32	—	—	R16	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	F	R32	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	R32	—	SF	—	—	—	—	QF	—	—	R32	10–8 (56%)
2003	27	—	—	—	—	SF	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	F	7–2 (78%)
W-L		0–1 (0%)	7–3 (70%)	0–1 (0%)	2–4 (33%)	3–1 (75%)	5–0 (100%)	0–1 (0%)	3–1 (75%)	11–7 (61%)	6–1 (86%)	1–1 (50%)	5–2 (71%)	1–1 (50%)	4–1 (80%)	1–1 (50%)	4–1 (80%)	14–6 (70%)	6–2 (75%)	5–1 (83%)	1–1 (50%)	2–1 (67%)	5–0 (100%)	9–2 (82%)	5–0 (100%)	1–2 (33%)	0–1 (0%)	1–2 (33%)	0–1 (0%)	1–3 (25%)	3–2 (60%)	2–1 (67%)	0–1 (0%)	8–4 (67%)	16–2 (89%)	2–2 (50%)	6–2 (75%)	6–2 (75%)	4–3 (57%)	150–68 (69%)

ATP Finals

Marcelo Rios ATP Finals results by season
Season	Age	FIN	GRA	W-L Win %
1997	21	—	QF	1–1 (50%)
1998	22	RR	W	3–1 (75%)
W-L		0–1 (0%)	4–1 (80%)	4–2 (67%)

Results show the best round reached per tournament and season.

ATP Ranking History full ranking history →

Career high

Career-high date

Mar 30, 1998

First Top 100

Jan 16, 1995

First Top 50

May 29, 1995

First Top 20

Mar 4, 1996

First Top 10

May 13, 1996

Ranking History Matrix

Marcelo Rios ranking history by month and season
Season	Age	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
1992	16	—	—	—	—	—	—	936	943	957	956	487	483
1993	17	485	489	491	380	380	383	401	384	395	405	555	562
1994	18	560	553	561	531	283	250	145	123	113	109	106	107
1995	19	103	97	77	63	48	49	38	34	33	25	25	25
1996	20	24	22	15	11	10	10	12	11	10	10	11	11
1997	21	7	6	9	8	10	10	9	10	7	13	10	10
1998	22	8	6	1	3	3	2	2	2	3	2	2	2
1999	23	2	6	13	8	9	9	13	10	8	9	9	9
2000	24	7	7	8	13	19	25	22	19	17	35	37	37
2001	25	22	23	26	26	39	35	52	56	58	45	39	39
2002	26	38	36	33	23	24	25	27	22	25	25	24	24
2003	27	36	32	36	43	42	44	43	51	67	103	103	105
2004	28	108	154	375	739	745	850	835	843	819	827	834	842
2005	29	842	849	843	994	—	—	—	—	—	—	—	—

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Yevgeny Kafelnikov	RUS	#1	2,066	855	574	281	67.1%	$23,883,797	26	2	0	1992–2003	Rivalries	Match log
Thomas Muster	AUT	#1	2,165	858	590	268	68.8%	$12,266,977	44	1	8	1984–2011	Rivalries	Match log
Carlos Moya	ESP	#1	2,029	864	554	310	64.1%	$13,443,970	20	1	3	1995–2010	Rivalries	Match log
Gustavo Kuerten	BRA	#1	2,137	523	339	184	64.8%	$14,807,000	20	3	5	1996–2008	Rivalries	Match log
Patrick Rafter	AUS	#1	2,105	511	333	178	65.2%	$11,133,128	11	2	2	1991–2001	Rivalries	Match log
Jim Courier	USA	#1	2,216	712	489	223	68.7%	$14,034,132	23	4	5	1987–2000	Rivalries	Match log
Marat Safin	RUS	#1	2,098	645	396	249	61.4%	$14,373,291	15	2	5	1997–2009	Rivalries	Match log
Andre Agassi	USA	#1	2,242	1,110	842	268	75.9%	$31,152,975	60	8	17	1986–2006	Rivalries	Match log
Lleyton Hewitt	AUS	#1	2,160	811	567	244	69.9%	$20,890,470	30	2	2	1997–2016	Rivalries	Match log
Juan Carlos Ferrero	ESP	#1	2,096	717	461	256	64.3%	$13,998,165	16	1	4	1999–2012	Rivalries	Match log
Pete Sampras	USA	#1	2,265	948	739	209	78.0%	$43,280,489	64	14	11	1988–2002	Rivalries	Match log
Goran Ivanisevic	CRO	#2	2,126	885	565	320	63.8%	$19,878,007	22	1	2	1988–2004	Rivalries	Match log

Frequently Asked Questions

How old is Marcelo Rios?: Marcelo Rios is 50 years old, born on December 26, 1975.
Which country does Marcelo Rios represent?: Marcelo Rios represents Chile in TennisDB's ATP records.
How tall is Marcelo Rios?: Marcelo Rios is 175 cm / 5'9".
Does Marcelo Rios use a one-handed or two-handed backhand?: Marcelo Rios uses a two-handed backhand.
Is Marcelo Rios left-handed or right-handed?: Marcelo Rios plays left-handed.
How many Grand Slam singles titles has Marcelo Rios won?: Marcelo Rios has not won a Grand Slam singles title.
How many Masters 1000 titles has Marcelo Rios won?: TennisDB groups 5 of Marcelo Rios's titles under the modern Masters 1000 category. All 5 were won under documented predecessor category names and are shown using the modern equivalent. The most recent was Hamburg in 1999.
How many ATP titles has Marcelo Rios won?: Marcelo Rios has won 18 ATP singles titles across all categories. The most recent was Hong Kong in 2001.
What is Marcelo Rios' highest ATP ranking?: Marcelo Rios' career-high ATP singles ranking is world No. 1, first achieved on March 30, 1998.
What is Marcelo Rios' career win-loss record?: Marcelo Rios has a career ATP singles record of 366 wins and 180 losses (67.0%).
How much career prize money has Marcelo Rios earned?: Marcelo Rios has earned at least $9,713,771 in career prize money from professional tennis.
Which seasons of Marcelo Rios's career appear in TennisDB?: Marcelo Rios appears in TennisDB's ATP main-tour match records from 1994 through 2003.
On which surface does Marcelo Rios have the highest recorded win rate?: Among surfaces with at least 20 recorded matches, Marcelo Rios's highest ATP main-draw win rate is on clay: 68.9% (164–74).
Who has Marcelo Rios faced most often?: Marcelo Rios' most frequent opponent is Alex Corretja, with a head-to-head record of 5–5 across 10 meetings.